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Free gay wedding photographer? Hi, Im a photographer looking to turn pro, and specialising in Civil Partnerships. Im currently building my portfolio and Im looking to shoot Civil Partnerships for free.
Any help or advice on where to advertise? | You know I thought about the same thing for videos.
Probably advertise in the alternative papers in whatever major city you are in. Post an ad on craigslist - that is where a lot of people look for such services. I got two wedding videos off a craigslist ad. | What if I'm asked to photograph a gay wedding? (Mature answers only please. The reason why I'm asking this is the photography section is because I want answers from fellow photographers. If I wanted your opinion on my beliefs I would have put this in a different section. Please be respectful! =) Thanks)
I am a photographer that has about 15 weddings booked for 2009 and am still constantly booking more.
My only problem is.. I don't know how I would feel if I was asked to do a gay wedding. I think I would feel very uncomfortable and I wouldn't want to do it. When a couple contacts me (most of the time by email) they don't give both couples names.
If I was gay, I know some people wouldn't feel comfortable about it. I would probably make it known to the photographer and ask if they were comfortable. Obviously, I would want to work with someone that was totally comfortable with me! But, I've heard a lot of stories about people getting sued for not taking business from gay people.
What are my options? Can I refuse to shoot a gay wedding? | If you don't want to shoot it then just make the excuse that you are too busy and already booked up for that date (obviously get the date first).
If you don't get the details of the couple initially then you could always just "pencil it in" and make your excuses later. Just ensure that you talk to the "couple" as soon after you get the initial mail as you possibly can.
If you refuse just because the couple is gay then you are laying yourself open to the possibility of some fool trying to get you for discrimination.
I don't know where you are located but if in the US then there is more chance of this because of the litigious nature of the country.
In the UK there are all sorts of discrimination laws including sexual discrimination which this I guess would come under.
Unless you have strong beliefs against gay marriage then really you should just approach it as any other wedding. | Do the Constitutional protections of one's practice of religion protect refusing to photograph a gay wedding? I recently received an email from a colleague who serves on the faculty of a U.S. university in a state which has legislatively affirmed its refusal to recognize gay marriages:
"One of my students is funding his PhD program tuition by videorecording and creating DVD presentations of weddings. However, he recently turned down a lesbian couple because it would have meant working the weekend before his thesis defense. Now the couple's attorney has demanded a significant sum of money or they will sue the student for denying them his services because of his alleged 'religious-based contempt for their holy union'. "
Should the "rights" (I put the word in quotes because I don't know if U.S. law officially considers them rights) of homosexual couples trump the rights of an individual to apply religious conscience to his/her business pursuits? (Of course, I am in no position to evaluate whether the photographer/videographer denied service to the couple for religious reasons or scheduling reasons.)
Or to put the question another way: On what basis should religious rights or "freedom from discrimination as a protected class" be recognized as superior to the other in judging whose rights should receive the most protection? | There may be issues here that you or I am unaware of, but in general - Unless the grad student in question was somehow representing government authority, then I believe the courts will hold that he or she has the right to refuse service to anyone, for whatever reason.
I'm a strong supporter of the rights of same sex couples to wed and to have that union recognized by local, state and federal governments, but I don't think that the married couple's rights have been infringed upon in this case. There are dozens of other photographers / videographers eager for their business, presumably, and as long as the grad student didn't libel or slander them in refusing to accept employment, I don't see how the couple think they have a case. | Free gay wedding photography? Hi, Im a photographer looking to turn pro, and specialise in Civil Partnerships. Im currently building my portfolio and Im looking to shoot Civil Partnerships for free.
Any help or advice on where to advertise? | I'm a professional photographer. Your idea of shooting (free) to develop your portfolio is smart. But if you want to turn "pro" soon, be careful to not be "branded" as "The Free Gay Photographer".
I suggest Craigslist as a good place to find your "free" subjects. Placing an ad is free. Offer your services, and screen the people who respond to assure they have the "look" you're going for. Shoot two or three - no more - for free, then start offering your services to the paying public. Don't limit your initial portfolio to just Civil Ceremonies. Offer it as "gay couples" photo sesions, and you'll be able to get a wider variety of images that your future clients will be able to relate to.
You might also think about lurking about the Town Hall or other venue where these Civil Unions are performed. When you see a likely looking couple arrive, approach them and offer to photograph their ceremony and celebration free. Just don't approach couples who already have a pro photographer - could result in bodily harm!
Some of the other suggestions - using local "lifestyle" magazines or other publications that target your audience are great. Just don't spend too much money offering free services, and don't "taint" your later pro ads. I used a different business name when I first started out and wanted to develop my portfolio offering free or deeply discounted photography. Later I switched to my "real" identity to offer services for real money.
Best of luck. | How many jobs are opponents of gay marriage costing us? Same-sex couples are coming from across the country to get married in Connecticut, which legalized same-sex marriage two years ago. About 2,500 couples have traveled to the Constitution State, which in turn has generated around $40 million in revenue from the state's restaurants, hotels, wedding photographers, and caterers.
You could argue, "they would have spent this money anyway even if it wasn't legal".........
but that argument is NOT supported by the numbers. | great figures - then you have the moral issues,followed by the
do anything to turn a trick, followed by the state of litlle Amsterdam | Don't you think some gay lawsuits are ridiculous? A lesbian sued e harmony for not having a gay service, A new jersey church was sued for not allowing a gay marriage, a photographer was sued for refusing to photograph a lesbian wedding....etc. I'm cool with gays but things like these destroy your reputation. | 90% of all lawsuits are ridiculous. So many people are basing lawsuits on 'personal injustices' that they feel occurred, be it based on race, gender, or sexual orientation. And lawyers are all to happy to jump on those cases because they're controversial and even if they lose, it gets their names out there.
It's so sad really. | I was invited to wedding, but my boyfriend was not? I'm gay.
I have a boyfriend.
My friend invited me to her wedding, asking me to bring my camera
(she has a photographer, but wants me as back up)
I ofcourse said yes.
My friend, her soon to be husband, and my bf and I went out to eat.
So everyone has meet everyone.
I get the invite-and do not read it closely.
It does not say guest.
I email her asking if it would be ok to bring him and I get this:
ohh sorry, it will be a small wedding =(
And as of right now, it would be really complicated with the seating plan as I don't want anybody to feel 'cramped in' ;)
I am sorry Baby!
*huggs*
what should I do? | first of all i HIGHLY doubt its to with your sexuality
second of all she has a right to NOT want people to bring guests
so either, go or don't go
but im almost positive it's not a personal slash. lots of people don't want people bringing along guests
if they make an exception to ONE person then they have to answer to ALL the people they told no
theres only 2 options
go or dont go
hollyy | Fighting with fiance over wedding planning? My fiance told me that he expects me to plan the wedding on my own, which is fine. He's gone with me to see the venue and to meet the photographer, so he's being helpful about certain things. What gets me is that he got mad at me last night because I told him that the wedding color is going to be purple. Purple is my favorite color so it is natural that I would choose it as my wedding color. He made a comment about how purple is the color for gay people (I know that was rude). I told him that it actually represents royalty. I asked him what color he thinks would be more appropriate and I jokingly asked him if he would rather everything be pink. Is there something wrong with purple? He's never had an issue with it before. It's not like everything is going to be purple. The bridesmaids dresses will be purple and I plan to have purple and white roses for bouquets and for decorating the cake, and maybe a flower arrangement on the tables. The linen and chairs will be white, in fact the majority of the reception will be white with purple accents. Do you think that would be ugly? Do you think it's fair that he tells me that I have to do all the planning but then get mad at me when I actually make a decision? I told him that I wont ask his input on anything, even the flavor of the cake if he's going to be like that. I told him that it will all be a surprise when he sees it. He said he likes red, but to me red is the color of blood and I don't like it much. Since he told me that I have to plan everything, shouldn't he accept what I choose then? Are you having arguments with your fiance over wedding planning? I'm guessing some fighting is expected with all the stress that goes along with planning. | | That's really trivial, honestly if you can't work that out without guidance you won't be able to handle marriage. I don't want to sound mean but you sound like someone who has no idea. | Gay weddings, why are they all ugly b******s? Come on who in their right mind would want to be a shirtlifter when you have to wake up every morning to elton john or jimmy sommerville, graeme norton or anyone other. Their are absolutely no good looking buffties, so how are straights meant to turn. Ha ha ha give me Kelly Brook, Charlise Theron or any other honey rather than this ugly shower. Surely all future queer weddings should be held behind closed doors with no photographers, and the wedding night cottaging in a public toilet should be in the dark. | I know one person who can relate to your thinking....your girlfriend, can you imagine what the poor woman has to go through waking up to your ugly mug daily.
you never know after shagging an irritating f#*ker like you, she is probable thinking "give me kelly brook, charlise Theron or anyone else rather than this ugly b#@stard" | How can I feel better after my wedding was ruined? I have stress related issues with public ceremony (kind of like fear of public speaking) but we were going to have a small one with 40 guests for my husband's sake. After it started pouring buckets before our garden ceremony, the best man (his brother and only attendant, who has never liked me, never been supportive and has always been a self-serving schmuck) didn't show up until the ceremony was suppose to start (2 hours late), guests who weren't invited invited themselves, and 20 people were following us around while trying to take pictures with our photographer making me increasingly agitated, I decided I couldn't handle the stress. I decided we would run out, have a ten minute or less truncated ceremony with few people following us and then go celebrate our marriage (not our wedding) with guests. His mother (who I've always gotten along with) came screaming up the aisle half way through our 5 minute ceremony, demanding that we start over when her whole family was there (while I had been on the verge and managing to avoid hysterics for a good 2 hours already). I even asked her to back up because she was out of line, but when she kept screaming in my face, I slapped her. Instantly the best man was there, had me by the head and neck, ripped my dress and threw me into a gazebo pillar. My mother, who was one of the people not invited and didn't even see events unfold, tried to play problem solver with the police and the other family, as part of her typical manipulation method to make me think I can trust her at all. Instead she fended off my friends, my support network, and even tried to kick my husband and sister out of the room, like she alone could could console me. I was so shell shocked I couldn't fight it. She also negotiated that my husband's family stay, including the one who attacked me, so I couldn't bring myself to come out of the building basement for the first 2 of 3 hours, then when I did, I was unable to relax with them huddled in the corner. I don't even remember seeing the decorations I spent a year hand-making, my friends surrounded me, barely anybody ate so I came home with about 10 food trays. His mother I would have been willing to reconcile with quite willingly had she not called my friend and wedding officiant a fag when he went up to her afterward to tell her that our wedding was not about her or her family and that she should be ashamed of herself for her behavior. That was the only rule I set for his family - Do not insult my gay friends and family or any minorities - because it is dinnertime banter for them. I didn't think they could keep their mouths shut. I made my husband swear to me they'd behave on 5 different occasions. She insulted everyone I know by saying that, right down to my little sister. I am personally offended for them and I am extremely hurt and angry at her. I will need a lot of time to work through it. His brother though, I feel that there is no rationalizing with, that he didn't attack me with any intention to defend his mother but just because a justifiable opportunity to hurt me arose, and that he feels no remorse. I have begun to have day- and nightmares of beating or stabbing him. They are only increasing my stress and making me more upset. I have also been having headaches, dizziness, and trouble catching my breath. I just want everything to go away. | | Well first I am so sorry that this happened to you secondly I would strongly suggest you seeking someone to talk to meaning a therapist of some sort. This was a truly horrible experience that I believe you need to speak to someone with. The way your feeling and the dreams you are talking about are almost like you have post traumatic stress disorder. Please seek someone to speak to I think it will be extremely helpful in getting you back on track and sorting out everything that happened. |
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